Tutorial — 2D layout
- Scroll: click and hold left mouse button on the white background, and drag the mouse leftwards, upwards, with the mouse button held down.
Scroll down to the Example Discussion below. Note how much text you don't need to read: pointless comments are collapsed — they don't waste your time.
Think about whether interesting comments appears at the top / to the upper left, and boring comments appear far away downwards / to the right. — The intention is that you find the most interesting comments first, when you start reading.
(Imagine the example discussion below, but moved to a "normal" forum: one single flat column, replies sorted by time — it would be unreadable. All you found wold be "Test", "Testing", "Test test" comments. But with Debiki, you find what you're looking for.)
Test to leave a reply: click Reply. And click Like to like some comments :-)
Topic: Which animal species is the kindest species in the world?
What's your opinion?
- 254 replies
- AAnonymous?2012-12-09 11:20Z
They have no arms and can do no evil. And they are intelligent, and always smile :-)
Well, that wasn't entirely true. — They are bullying each other sometimes. And although they many times have saved humans from drowning, or from sharks, they have also actually killed humans — some poor fellow that surprised them by jumping from the boat down in the middle of them.
- A4Anonymous?2013-03-24 02:24Z
It's very annoying to scroll to the right so far to see new comments...
- A2Anonymous??2013-06-28 12:41Z
- Uuser_145 (KajMagnus)2013-06-30 06:20Z
You're drag-scrolling with the mouse? (I.e. clicking and dragging on the white background)
You would have had to scroll an even longer distance, downwards, had everything been placed in a single 1D column. (Isn't that worse? I think)
It's a problem, however, I agree — and now I'm thinking about [replies-to-the-OP that don't get any replies themselves]. They make the page very very wide, leaving it mostly blank.
Illustration: (the two rightmost replies are problematic because they make the page too wide. I wonder how that can be fixed?? Placing them on top of each other somehow?)
[the Original Post] [.... ] \ `+--------+----------------+-------–... [Reply] [Reply with no] [Another ] | [replies, bad ] [one, bad] [Re. 2] [Good ] | [Re. 3] [... ]
- A2Anonymous??2013-07-07 01:38Z
You could tab the comments, eg with twitter bootstrap tabs,
left tab - most interesting (or newest/oldest) center tab - less interesting right tab - least interesting
Would also solve the problem of having to scroll right, especially on smaller screens.
- Uuser_145 (KajMagnus)2013-07-11 08:39Z
That cold work unless there are too many replies to the root post. For example, on this page, there are 36 direct root post replies — then there would be 36 tabs?
Perhaps it's possible to make it work anyway, by showing only the next 3 tabs or something like that.
I'm afraid some people wouldn't realize that they were supposed to click on the tabs to find more comments.
- A2Anonymous??2013-07-07 01:52Z
Also, the arrows make little sense with the comments already nested. The arrow distract from the content. Most people should be familiar with nested comments anyway.
- Uuser_145 (KajMagnus)2013-07-11 08:40Z
That is true. I think the arrows are really only helpful when the replies "branch out", I mean, when there are >= 2 replies to a comment.click to show
- Uuser_145 (KajMagnus)2013-10-13 01:46Z
I've removed most arrows now, and only kept arrows that are actually needed (which they are if there are many replies to a reply, since the layout isn't the standard nested comment layout: the last reply isn't indented).
- Uuser_145 (KajMagnus)2012-04-23 07:26Z
It's the kindest and cruelest species
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- A2Anonymous??2014-02-10 01:52Z
Are you sure it's also the kindest? Most of the time we're being kind is when we're trying to fix our own or somebody else's cruelty.
Like helping the homeless is kind. But the reason they're homeless is most likely due to other people's cruelty.
- Uuser_153 (Kaj Magnus)2014-06-25 14:59Z
I think when finding the kindest species, it's individuals that counts, not the average :-) And usually the ones that help the homeless aren't the ones who were cruel against them. So if you look at individuals, then among humans you'll find the most kind hearted beings and also the most cruel beings.
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